As I read up on the Nazi consolidation of power in early 1933, I continue to find an interesting flaw in the MAGA Nazi Project 2025 conspiracy. They seem to have a child-like belief that just by having the Insurrection Act in their back pocket they can go about their merry business corrupting the administration of justice.
This is similar how in the days leading up to the Insurrection, John Eastman just kind of waved a hand and said that SCOTUS would be their failsafe. Whatever problems they had in implementing the plot, they knew that the majority MAGA SCOTUS would have their back.
But the thing about the U.S. Military is I’m not willing to assume that they’re willing to be Tyrant Trump’s enforcers, even if there is a thin veneer of legality over Trump’s orders. What the fucking MAGA Nazis are going to probably realize soon enough is that they need a paramilitary arm.
The question is, what happens between the time they invoke the Insurrection Act and when they realize that lulz, maybe the U.S. Military thinks the fucking MAGA Nazis are full of shit and balks at crushing opposition to Project 2025? But it makes a lot of sense that Tyrant Trump at some point in his first 100 days would realize he needed an SA-like organization.
I see there being two possible solutions to his tyrannical problem. One is, he simply weaponizes the already existing ICE infrastructure and turns it into something along the lines of the SS, rather than the SA. That seems the quickest way to “legally” crush dissent. Simply increase the size of ICE dramatically and train them to knock heads.
Meanwhile, there *are* a lot of different little paramilitary groups floating around who are just begging to become the official goons of Tyrant Trump. But that would take time to organize and ramp up. And, what’s more, the United States in 2025 is not Germany in 1933.
The United States is far more decentralized, has a far bigger population and a far stronger tradition of democracy to the point that “land of the free” is kind of our brand. So if Tyrant Trump organizes a paramilitary group to organize and murder people using extra-legal means….people might notice and care.
What is clear to me is that Project 2025 is nothing more than a set up for revolution and counter-revolution (civil war.) In fact, if Project 2025 “catches the car” it seems that we’re on the eve of a historical event unequalled since the French Revolution.
As I grow more and more and concerned about the implications of the MAGA Nazi plot Project 2025, I find myself alarmed at how our Jewish friends are not freaking out in a more conspicuous and public manner. I continue to read about the first 100 days of the Nazis’ consolidation of power in early 1933 and I’m quite spooked.
One of the lessons of that time is the fucking Nazis were able to use their paramilitary arm the SA to browbeat the 48% of the population that didn’t support them into at least being pliant.
The thing is — I know that whatever happens to Jewish people under Tyrant Trump is going to inevitably happen to *me* too. I’m not Jewish but I am a loudmouth drunk crank who is not above calling Tyrant Trump a small-dicked cocksucker.
There are two curious things about MAGA that separates it from the Nazis.
One is, MAGA is a symptom of a declining empire that wants to turn inward. I think this will lead to a total reordering of the global system established after WW2. The United States will pull out of NATO and South Korea and, lulz, maybe even align itself with Russia, Hungary and Turkey.
Also, at least for the time being, MAGA isn’t as virulent in its antisemitism. The issue of MAGA becoming antisemites seems to be a forgone conclusion because form follows function. And, remember, Tyrant Trump is old as fuck and it could be that President Carlson or President MTG starts to go after the Jewish community, even if the Late President Forever had Jewish people in his direct family.
As such, I wish Jewish people of all stripes would be a bit more public in their freak out about the aims of Project 2025. It is clear that Project 2025 is nothing less than an attempt to transition the United States into a fascist state like that found in Nazi Germany. The only thing they don’t have — at the moment — is an official paramilitary arm like the SA.
Maybe a weaponized ICE will fill that role as Project 2025 begins to corrupt the administration of justice? Whatever fills that role, it probably will be done under the cover of some sort of faux legal bullshit.
The point is — rather than flee the country starting in late 2024, early 2025 using their second passports, Americans of all stripes need well-heeled Jewish people to stay and fight. Never again means never again.
Oh boy. It definitely seems as though we’re marching towards Something Big starting in late 2024, early 2025. And at the center of this potential clusterfuck is the issue of abortion. The thing about abortion is once you get past the moralization over the topic by the Right, it’s actually an economic issue because the real target is not abortion but legal birth control.
Legal abortion has always served as a legal firebreak for keeping birth control legal in the United States. Now that that firebreak is no more, the momentum on the right is to outlaw all contraception — even for married people. That’s the ultimate endgame.
So, the stage is set for Trump as part of the larger Project 2025 conspiracy, outlawing abortion on a national basis in 2025. This seems inevitable at this point, if Congress is controlled by MAGA in 2025. If there is a national abortion band just as Project 2024 is pissing everyone off through the corruption of the levers of power, then, oh boy….there could be a Resistance Revolution, which will in turn, provoke a National Divorce started by Reds.
In the middle, of course, will be the U.S. Military. In the end, what the U.S. Military decides to do will be the issue that ultimately decide the fate of the United States. Remember, at the moment, even with Project 2025, the fucking MAGA Nazis don’t have a paramilitary under their direct guidance like the Nazis did with the SA.
I suppose that will change, of course. And that doesn’t even begin to address the issue of the ICE infrastructure being weaponized.
But the issue remains — could a national abortion ban be the thing that finally brings America to his knees? At the moment, I just don’t know. I am, however, very worried.
Ding-dong Trump spins off so much bullshit that you never can quite tell if he means anything he says. But he apparently has mentioned recent that he’s open to naming Tucker Carlson –of all people — to be his second term veep. The only reason why I find this curious (beyond the obvious) is Trump would be bucking the macro political trend in American politics of naming a woman as veep.
Anyway. Given how fucking fat and old ding-dong would-be Tyrant Trump is, if Carlson was Trump’s Veep would have to think seriously about what type of president he would make. Given his youth and focus, I do think he could be the guy who transitioned the United States into a Russian-style managed democracy.
We will wake up 20 years from now — or sooner — and wonder why the United States is invading Canada in a quest to “cure the woke mind virus” found there. I’m not joking. That would be a real possibility.
And I think given that he has absolutely zero government experience, the first few years of Carlson’s presidency would be very, very rocky. But he would use the Project 2025 framework far more effectively and, lulz, there you go. We slide peacefully into autocracy and drunk cranks like me get an ICE bullet to the head.
Given the legalistic nature of the autocracy that MAGA Nazis envision once Tyrant Trump is in power again, it seem clear that the existing ICE infrastructure is ripe for weaponization. If that happened, then I think ICE would become equivalent to the Nazi gestapo — or maybe even the SS if things got dark enough.
So, what might happen is, Trump becomes president. He has a MAGA controlled Congress. When MAGA isn’t passing legislation outlawing abortion and non fault divorce, I could see some sort of legislation dramatically re-defining the purpose and goals of ICE.
It would happen with a lot of smoke and mirrors, but the point would be to give Tyrant Trump a secret police he could use to bash heads. As I understand it, there is a “extended boarder area” that extends far past the actual border that ICE might use to “check the papers” of people randomly. If it turned out they wrote on their blog what a fucking small dicked cocksucker Tyrant Trump is, they get scooped up and thrown into an already-existent ICE camp.
As an aside, I am curious as to when the MAGA Youth and MAGA SA will come into existence. I’m sure it will be within the first 100 days of Tyrant Trump’s return to office, but those are 100 days that could give us anti-MAGA Poors time to realize what’s up and organize some sort of national collective action.
Or not. Most of the people who would organize such a thing will have already fled the country for Europe and beyond by that point. Lulz.
The Nazi’s SA paramilitary group was instrumental in the fascist’s consolidation of power in the early days of their rule. It is clear that the MAGA Nazi Project 2025 believes that they will do via the corruption of the law and administration of government what the Nazis used the SA to do in the streets. Their thinking is that Americans will adhere to the law, even if its been corrupted by a bunch of fucking MAGA Nazi hacks.
It seems as though Project 2025 organizers think they can use the cover of the Insurrection Act to get the U.S. Military to bash heads in like the SA did in 1933. This is a curious assumption — on an institutional basis, the U.S. Military will not be thrilled to be an operational arm of the MAGA Nazis in the streets when freedom loving Americans begin to protest.
There are a number of would-be SA groups floating around in the United States at the moment. The Proud Boys. The Oath Keepers. And, of course The Patriot Front. Of all these groups, it seems as though The Patriot Front has the organization and focus to be the American SA. (I’m sure they would see this as a compliment.)
But as best I can tell, The Patriot Front is kind of small compared to the SA in early 1933 Germany. What’s more, the link between MAGA and The Patriot Front is not nearly as direct. In other words, Republicans don’t have an official paramilitary arm — at least not yet. It seems the thinking of the MAGA Nazis is they can simply browbeat everyday Americans into accepting MAGA tyranny through a combination of the corruption of the law and administration of government while using the Insurrection Act to knock the heads of anyone with the temerity to object.
And, yet, if things grow as severe as all of us worry they will, it’s possible that the lack of a MAGA SA will be the thing that pushes America past the point of no return. MAGA Nazis simply relying upon the U.S. Military to supply a “value added” element to their hateful tyranny seems a recipe for disaster.
What happens if the U.S. Military balks at murdering peaceful protesters in the streets and turns on the tyrannical Trump Administration? Then what? Even if they successfully deposed Tyrant Trump, 38% of the electorate would, in turn, freak out and probably we would have a Secession Crisis on our hands.
I suppose it’s possible that it’s possible that Trump won’t win re-election and we’ll punt our severe structural problems down the road four years — again. That’s what I *HOPE* happens. But we have to begin to think now about what freedom loving people, citizens who honor Abraham Lincoln, are going to do should Tyrant Trump get a second chance to throttle the Second Republic that Lincoln founded upon his death.
By Ender I’m reading a book about the Nazi’s first 100 days and the more I read it, the more compelling it becomes. I say this because of what I’m learning about the Nazi MAGA’s Project 2025 which lays out what the fucking MAGA Nazis plan to do once they have power again.
Essentially, as I understand it, Project 2025 is essentially a plot against America that would provide Tyrant Trump with the legal and administrative shock troops of the MAGA Nazi (counter) revolution. Reading about the Nazis’ first 100 days is very illuminative as to what we should expect should Tyrant Trump win re-election in 2024.
If Trump literally begins to lock up his critics, all American will, at last, face a moment of truth. It seems clear that Tyrant Trump wants to sucker punch us in the first few days of his second administration by arresting people he doesn’t like and invoking the Insurrection Act.
My hunch is that all the fucking earnest, smug Twitter liberals who have loved Mueller, She Wrote so much since the advent of Trump will pretty much just slink out of the country using the second passport. Rather than using their power and influence to organize mass direct action like a General Strike, they will be swilling wine and recording their circle jerk, smug podcasts somewhere in the south of France.
As such, I think the moment it’s clear Trump has won a second term, there will be a massive outflux of wealthy, educated liberals from the country. That will be the first indication that the MAGA Nazi counter revolution has begun. A number of notable Trump critics will be among them, as well. When people like Stephen Colbert and Jon Stewart bounce in late 2024, then, lulz, we know we’re going to the show.
Of course, it could be even worse. Rather than leaving the country, Colbert may simply vanish off the airwaves soon after Trump comes back into office. When dystopian, tyrannical shit like that starts to happen, it makes me wonder what my Traditionalist relatives — whom I love — will react.
Because I have made it clear to anyone who will listen that I’m not fucking shutting up about how I think MAGA is fucking American Nazism and Trump is a fucking small dicked cocksucker. Come at me, bruh, as they say. I’ve repeatedly tried to make the rise of MAGA Nazism personal to my conservative relatives, with little reaction.
It’s shit like that that makes me think that much like the Nazis during their first 100 days in 1933, MAGA Nazis, too, will ride political momentum into a situation where they turn the nation I love into a fucking American Nazi state. The existing ICE infrastructure will be weaponized and people like me will be rounded up as “enemies of the state.”
I wish I was kidding. It definitely seems as though that’s my fate at the moment. I’m never fucking shutting up. I would rather die on my feet a free man than live on my knees a slave.
What’s interesting to me is the conditions of the Nazis’ first 100 days and those of the MAGA Nazis’ 100 days are not one-to-one. Among the differences is modern America is far bigger and far more diverse than German 1933. And, what’s more, not only is the American state far more decentralized than the Weimar Republic, being a free country is part of the American self-identity and birthright.
As such, the moment the fruits of Project 2025 begin to be seen, there is very likely going to be a pretty severe reaction. When the fucking Project 2025 SA members begin to use the levers of state while they corrupt the law, we will enter a political crisis not seen since the end of the civil war.
One thing I can’t game out is what the U.S. Military will do should the MAGA Nazis use the Insurrection Act to go after American citizens. The thing about the Nazis is during their first 100 days, they had paramilitary groups like the SA to knock heads and cause the end of the Weimar Republic.
While there are a number of paramilitary groups affiliated with the MAGA Nazi movement, but none of them are as powerful or widespread as the Nazi SA was in early 1933 Germany.
As such, the MAGA Nazis have to invoke the Insurrection Act to get the U.S. Military to do their dirty work for them. This raises the question of if the U.S. Military is prepared to be a goons who club the American public “just cause.” That is an open question in my mind.
It seems to me at least possible that the U.S. Military, rather than knocking heads, may turn on Herr Trump and his MAGA Nazis thugs. I’ve already proposed that the 14th Amendment’s Insurrection Clause would be an ideal legal over to depose Tyrant Trump. A lot would depend, of course, on who was Speaker of the House in 2025.
The most extreme version of this scenario would involve something unpreceded a military junta that would keep the country together until, say, a Constitutional Convention could be held that would push through some very needed Constitutional reforms.
I only suggest such a thing because, lulz, even if we did manage to depose Tyrant Trump, there would still be about 38% of the population that really, really wanted the vision that malignant ding-dong proposed. Only the U.S. Military would have the means to hold the country together long enough to sort out an ongoing clusterfuck in a way that gave us a political off ramp.
If that didn’t work, then well, buckle up — we’re going to the show. Any attempt to depose Tyrant Trump would cause a Secession Crisis which, would, in turn, probably cause WW3 to happen.
Now, before I lay this scenario out, let me be clear — I’m not advocating anything. I’m a man of peace. A man of ideas. And, what’s more, we all know that what I’m about to suggests happened that it would be just the opening salvo into pretty much a civil war / revolution situation.
But, having said that, here goes.
While it’s of course possible that Trump won’t win the 2024 election, it’s also true that at the moment it seems as though he is, in fact, going to win and we have to start to think now about what our reaction to that will be. Trump has made it very clear that he’s pretty much going to become a fucking tyrant the moment he is in power again.
He’s going to arrest people he doesn’t like. He’s going to invoke the Insurrection Act, the list goes on.
Really, the only thing that gives me any hope at the moment is that all these tyrannical things would not happen in a vacuum. If Trump really does go full tyrant straight out of the gate, there may come a point where a lot of well-meaning Traditionalists who voted for Trump because of negative polarization will finally, at last, sit up and take notice.
If Trump actually starts to not only round his critics up so he can “lock them up” AND he uses the military to crack down on any form of dissent, then, lulz, we got a problem on our hands. We may, very well, be going to the show. That’s what so dumb about tyrant Trump — if he had any self control he could get everything he wanted in due time.
But, no, Trump is so dumb that he could do what a civil war and two world wars could not do — cause an actual Glorious Revolution where the 60% of the population that hates Trump and MAGA with a passion actually collectively does something about it.
If Trump is a tyrant and makes all my hysterical doom shit fears become a reality, then there is at least a small possibility that the U.S. Military will step in and depose him in some way. The most logical way such a thing might happen is they could use the legal cover of the 14th Amendment to say both Trump and his veep aren’t legally in office to begin with.
We may find ourselves with a military junta (President James Mattis anyone?) who exists specifically to call up a Constitutional Convention that would enact a series of much-needed structural political reforms.
Another wild card is the issue of impeachment. If Trump goes totally completely fucking tyrannical and nuts from day one, if the House is Democratic, there is a chance that if the country is wracked with massive, rolling protests and there is even a General Strike, then there may be a snap impeachment that flies over to the Senate where Republicans may, at last, find their guts.
Or not. They’re all wussies.
But as I mentioned, Trump is really popular with about 38% of the population. If there was some sort of “Glorious Revolution,” well, there would be a counter-revolution that would probably happen in the guise of a secession crisis.
So. I don’t know. It’s all very curious. I can’t predict the future, so it’s possible that Biden will win re-election and, rather than demanding a National Divorce to stay out of prison, Trump just rants a lot and finally fades into oblivion. We’ll be safe another four years until the usual ebb and flow of a democracy causes a far more sly fascist revolution to take place in 2028 -2029.
In general, Americans are collectively pretty chill. It takes a whole lot to rile us up. We’re not French, after all. In fact, the last time we really got ornery was in the late 1960s, early 1970s in the context of the Vietnam War. Once The Draft ended, then, lulz, everyone just wanted to shake their booty and being politically engaged was a thing of the past.
A book I really enjoyed as a young man is William Safire’s “Freedom,” which is a huge tome of a novel that deals with the early days of the Civil War leading up to the Emancipation Proclamation. The book deals with what I would call “Radical Moderates.” This is epitomized by when one of the characters says, “We’re all Abolitionists now.”
The average person in 2023 has no comprehension as to how radical freeing the slaves being a war aim was in 1862. So, in a sense, if you want to know what a Radical Moderate is, just think of how President Lincoln only gradually warmed up to the idea of freeing the slaves.
ANYWAY.
The point of all that is — if Trump goes totally bonkers and full tyrant, what happens? Anything? All the signs point to Trump winning in 2024 and then, in a very, very fucking erratic manner, shoving tyranny down the throats of Americans in an unprecedented manner.
And, as an aside, remember — if Trump does happen to lose, there’s really good chance that he will single-handedly provoke a civil war in an effort to avoid going to jail. Let that sink in.
This is where I note that general macro political trends are for the United States to drift (peacefully) into autocracy. It’s a gimmie at this point. Now, in late 2023, the United States is an “anocracy” or even, maybe, an autocracy without an autocrat.
So, if any other Republican was in Trump’s position, we would simply wake up on day 20 years from now — or less — and wonder why the United States is invading Canada to free it from the “woke mind virus.” But this is Trump we’re talking about.
He’s so stupid, lazy and idiotic that what should be a historical gimmie, could turn into a massive fucking clusterfuck. But, again, this all raises the question — how tyrannical can Trump get before there’s some sort of “Glorious Revolution” lead by Radical Moderates?
And, remember, pushing things to the limit is kind of Trump’s thing. The man has been a one man stress test to our entire political system, ranging from the courts to the election process itself. So, yeah, I could see Trump going stark raving mad and tyrannical at some point in his second term to the point that, say, there’s a General Strike of some sort that might bring the nation to its knees.
This, of course, raises an interesting idea — might the U.S. Military step in? I don’t think so. And, yet, if Trump was running around demanding the U.S. Military to do things to the domestic population that were clearly illegal and un Constitutional….maybe they would step in?
An interesting way that Trump might be deposed is the an novel use of the 14th Amendment. Remember, the Radical Republicans of Reconstruction were able to fuck with the South for a few years by saying the did not have a “republican form of government.” As such, if Trump went crazy and started to do things that the U.S. Military simply could not brook, it’s at least possible that the legal fig leaf that would be used would be that Trump was illegally in office to begin with because he was in violation of the 14th Amendment.
But all of that is just a speculative daydream at the moment. I think that while Trump is likely to go full bonkers tyrant the moment he’s in office again, that, in the end, he’ll solve all his problems with the U.S. Military by demanding a Constitutional Convention that rewrites the Constitution in the likeliness of MAGA.
If that happens, may God have mercery on all our souls.
The most recent Pod Save America is really great. But I do find it interesting that the PSA guys seem to have a blind spot when it comes to what’s going on with American politics. They keep wondering how it is that we find ourselves in this situation and how we can deal with Trump.
Marjorie Taylor Greene and Donald Trump at a campaign rally in Dalton, Ga., on Jan. 4, 2021.
The problem is not only is America now an anocracy rather than democracy, there is a sizable portion of the population who hates democracy and crave an autocratic white Christian ethnostate of blood and soil. There comes a point when you have to accept how existential the 2024 election is going to be for the fate of the United States.
If every election a democracy has is existential, then you’re really not a democracy anymore. We have to accept that a lot of white Christian conservative (males) feel disenfranchised to the point that they would rather we throw up our hands and give up on our founding principles.
I just don’t have any hope anymore. We have to prepare for some sort of monumental events to happen starting in late 2024, early 2025. I have no idea what might happen, but things aren’t looking great at the moment. In fact, they look rather dire.
There are no easy answers or solutions. I do believe that MAGA will one day be viewed as just as bad as the Nazis, with all the foreboding and evil that that assumes about what they will do the next time they have power.
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