Tag: Stieg Larsson

At Least I Have A Vision For Thriller Novel

by Shelt Garner
@sheltgarner

As I keep saying, I have a very clear vision for this thriller novel I’m working on — I want it to be an old brown shoe to anyone who read and enjoyed the Stieg Larsson Millennium series of novels.

That’s my goal and that’s always been my goal, from the very beginning.

As such, I use a few subtle and not so subtle techniques that he used so when people start to read the novel they’ll think, “Huh, this is like a Stieg Larsson novel from 20 years ago.”

For instance, I refer — outside of quotes — to people by their surname like he did. I also, within chapters, change POVs. Both of these things will either annoy the hell out of you or you’ll remember Larsson’s works and say, “Huh, cool.”

Had I been a bit more clued-in when I started working on this novel, I probably wouldn’t have done these things. But I really, really love The Girl Who Played With Fire and so I decided to use it as my “textbook.”

As such, I tried to hone as close to “how would Larsson do it” as possible.

Now, one thing is clear — Larsson on the backend clearly had a much more elaborate development process. Mine is all ad hoc and just do whatever necessary to finish the Goddamn thing.

Anyway, I guess I’ll see what happens.

Some Thoughts As I Potentially Zoom Towards Querying In The Fall

by Shelt Garner
@sheltgarner

Looking over the content I’m fusing together, it definitely seems as least within the realm of possibility that it won’t be a year from now when I query my first novel, but, rather this fall.

Four things come to mind as I contemplate this.

  1. The Novel May Be Too Long
    Because I work in terms of scenes, not word count — at least for a lot longer than you might think — I honestly don’t know how long this novel will be. While I’m aiming for about 100,000 words, there is a real chance I may blow past that and be closer to 160,000. That would really put a crimp in my dreams of ever successfully querying, but, lulz, this is a passion project and I just want to experience what it’s like to query.
  2. I’m Kind of Bonkers
    Any literary agent doing due diligence on me is probably think I’m nuts. I may just be too “colorful” for my own good. I just have accept that particular example of the “kook tax” and try to roll with the punches. But it sucks that that and my age may really in a cold, clinical nuts-and-bolts kind of way may prevent me from ever getting published traditionally.
  3. The Novel May Be Too Spicy
    There is a fair amount of sex in this novel, the point that that, unto itself, my turn literary agents off. And the fact that my heroine is something of a part-time sex worker might also cause some problems.
  4. I’m A Middle-Aged White Dude Writing From A Brown Female POV At Times
    There are a number of problems baked into the very structure of this novel from the get-go that may make it a no-go. I often write from a female POV in this novel. There are more than one POV within a chapter. And the chapters are probably a little too long at some points. All of those issues — while true to paying homage to Stieg Larsson — may really make it difficult to sell the novel.

Yet Again…

by Shelt Garner
@sheltgarner

I’ve printed out the entire first act AGAIN and I’m going to go read it AGAIN in hopes of finding any weak scenes so I can re-write them. I’m really leaning into AI to do this form of development.

I hate it when AI gives me copy, writing is MY JOB.

Anyway. Things are going well with the novel as of now. I’m hoping to enter the first half of the second act pretty soon. I already know there are a number of weak scenes. It’s just annoying that I keep reading and rereading the first act. It’s time to get into the second act.

The novel continues to be a little too spicy for my needs, but, lulz, fuck it. As long as the overall story is good, I suppose I can grit my teeth and allow for a little bit more sex than might otherwise happen.

At least I didn’t start the novel with a sex scene, which I think is bad form. But, in general, I’m pretty pleased with what I’ve come up with — at least the first act. The tough part is going to be to smooth things out between the first act and the rest of the novel.

But, in general, I think if you’re a fan of Stieg Larsson’s stuff, you’ll really enjoy this novel and the planned novels that follow it.

Comparing My Novel To Stieg Larsson’s Works

by Shelt Garner
@sheltgarner

One thing I did not know for a long time was that two of the three novels written by Stieg Larsson while he was alive were actually part of one huge novel that was split into two and connected by a cliffhanger. Hence, that was why it was such a struggle for me to figure out the structure of the novel I decided to use as my textbook — The Girl Who Played With Fire.

Now that I’m back into the swing of things with working on this thriller — when I should be using some of my time to work on some scifi, too, natch — I find myself mulling how much of a one-to-one there is between my textbook and my novel.

My goal from the beginning of this process has been to write an American Lisbeth Salander. What I didn’t expect was I would start the series not with my own The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo, but with what would effectively be a prequel. My novel is set in late 1994 and is about the events surrounding the BIRTH of my Salander-like character.

The other (planned) novels are about my heroine as an adult. But doing things the way I’m doing them gives me a lot of room to distinguish my work from that of Larsson. Since I’m an American (duh) my novels are going to be natively American in their scope and style, even though I use some structure techniques of Larsson just so I can hopefully appeal to his fanbase.

(Even though the novels first came out about 20 years ago.)

Anyway. It will be interesting to see what happens next. I hope to get this first thriller in the series done ASAP — hopefully no later than maybe a year from now, if not sooner.

I really want to query this novel (for the first time.) I’ve never gotten that far in the process before.

‘Kill Your Darlings’

by Shelt Garner
@sheltgarner

I have managed to cut down my new first act of the new version of the thriller novel I’ve been working on for years to about 44 scenes or so. I’ve attempted to make the first act as simple as possible. I’m attempting to streamline things to the point that I don’t overwhelm readers with a lot of information.

All of this has reduced the word count down to something a little bit more manageable.

The novel is now going to be a far more a traditional murder-in-a-small-town type of affair. There is a lot more of a point to the novel, I think. Previously, the novel was something of a character study that didn’t seem to have much of a point to it.

I haven’t yet gotten to the part of the new version of the novel that is the second draft of the novel. Things may slow down dramatically at that point as I try to figure out how to essentially write a third draft to the novel.

But the key thing is — I now have a first act. Before, I just started the novel at a point in the story where there was a lot of information thrown at the reader. Now, there is an entire act before the murder happens, which is what I wanted.

This is similar to what happens in The Girl Who Played With Fire. I like that structure style for some reason. I like the idea of there being a whole act that leads up to the murder instead of just opening with a body being discovered or it happening in the first few chapters.

‘A New Hope’

by Shelt Garner
@sheltgarner

Oh boy. In the name of not throwing too much at the reader at one time — and to made the first act more manageable, I’ve decided to yet again change the beginning of the novel in a dramatic fashion.

Now, a lot of things are either alluded to or happen “off camera” so things are smoother and not so overwhelming. But I do think I’m probably going to have to do a lot more rewriting than I would prefer.

And, all the same problems that this novel has relative to modern expectations still exist — I change POVs within chapters, etc. But my hope is that people who remember Stieg Larsson’s work will read it and say, “Oh, I get it, this is just like The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo.”

That’s the hope, at least.

And this remains a passion project. I really, really need to piviot some of my free time to the other, more traditionally marketable novels I’m working on. But there comes a point when I just have to shrug and say, “Either you like this passion project and want to read it, or you don’t.”

I have my vision for the passion project and I’m sticking to it, come what may.

Now The Word Count Problem Is Back

by Shelt Garner
@sheltgarner

The novel that my novel is meant to be an homage to, The Girl Who Played With Fire, is, as I recall, about 160,000 words. That is way, way too long for my novel for a number of reasons, the biggest being it would be my first novel.

And, yet, here I am — it definitely looks like I could blow past the 100,000 sweetspot of a first novel in a pretty big way.

I don’t know yet because I haven’t gotten that far in the process — I work in terms of scenes, not word count, so I don’t get around to finding out how many words something I’ve worked on is until pretty late in the process.

I have been very careful in the other projects I have been working on to do everything in my power to get them in at about 100,000 words.

Despite all that, I still am fixated on this passion project to the detriment of the other novels I should be working on. So, all this time I should be using on a scifi novel of about 100,000 words, I’m using on a thriller that could be close to 160,000 words.

Yikes!

But, like I said, I don’t know yet. It could be that the novel — which is probably going to be more than 100,000 words no matter what — could come in at something closer to 120,000 or maybe 140,000.

I’m really enjoying myself, though, with this passion project. Once I get into the second act, I think things are going to slow down a great deal ’cause I’m going to be working with the second draft material. I probably am going to have to root around in that second draft material a lot to have it synch up with all the changes I made between the second and third draft of the novel.

I Really Need A Backup Novel

by Shelt Garner
@sheltgarner

As it stands, I’m going through the latest version of my passion project at a nice little clip. So fast that it’s at least possible that I will finish this fourth draft soon enough to query in about a year.

That is, of course, unless the Singularity happens and or Trump’s stupidity causes the country to collapse into chaos.

But as all of this is happening, I continue to realize I probably need a backup novel that is a bit more marketable and maybe doesn’t have stripper elements to it. I have a number of scifi novels done to varying degrees and pretty much all I need to do is just sit down and burrow through an outline and finish something, anything — at least a first draft.

And, yet, the call of the passion project thriller is just too strong most of the time.

I really want this homage to Stieg Larsson to be my first novel. And, yet, I know I probably can write a really good scifi novel if I just get over myself and focus. It’s all very difficult for various reasons.

I think what I may do is edit the first act of the thriller then with that as a place to pause, I will piviot to one or several of the other novels and use that distraction to clear my head.

You Have To Believe, Sometimes

by Shelt Garner
@sheltgarner

I just have to believe when it comes to this novel. I have all these other novels I want to work on, but the central passion project is something I have to just believe in.

The main reason for this is I’m using a lot of the structural elements of Stieg Larsson’s work — multiple POVs within chapters being one of them — and I keep feeling insecure about that. That’s why I think of this novel as a passion project — I really need a back up or two that will be more marketable in a traditional manner.

Sometimes I just feel really meh and don’t do anything for a few days because what I really want to do — which is to focus exclusively on the passion project — I know I probably shouldn’t do. I need a backup plan, but I just sometimes don’t feel like it.

Ugh.

Once More Into The Breach

by Shelt Garner
@sheltgarner

I hope to really start to work a lot harder on not one, but two novels. I would add a third but I don’t really want to risk over extend myself.

I hope to appeal to readers of Stieg Larsson’s “The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo” with the thriller I’m writing.

The “main” novel is the passion project — a thriller revolving around a woman’s obsession with owning a community newspaper.

The “backup” novel is a scifi novel that’s meant to be something that Andy Weir readers might enjoy. It has to deal with AI, so I need to hurry the fuck up. If I dilly-dally for a decade all these predictions I might want to make might actually come true.

Anyway, I’m quite content with what’s going on creatively-wise. I just have to focus. Too often, I fall into just drifting into doing something with the novel. I have to stop drifting and actually have some structure and to do something with some regimen to it.